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PostPosted: June 10, 2020, 4:39 pm 
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4 hours in the garage today replacing the alternator on Wifey Dearest's 05 Ford Escape.
I have known for a long time that I hate Ford engineers; this experience really confirms it. The shop manual calls for dropping the front subframe to replace the alternator and gives the mechanic 3 hours to complete the job.

Not dropping the subframe involves the following
Place car on jackstands or lift. No lift here, so jackstands
remove bottom splash pan to access serpentine belt area
Use long cheater bar to rotate the tensioner and remove serpentine belt
Remove passenger front tire
remove axle nut
remove tie rod end
remove bolt at bottom of knuckle to lower control arm
remove front bolt on lower control arm so LCA can pivot down and outward to release LBJ from LCA
remove 2 nuts holding axle center bearing cup to frame
remove axle
unplug crank angle sensor and tie plug out of the way. you need EVERY BIT OF SPACE to get the alternator out.
remove 2 bottom bolts from alternator
remove 8mm bolt holding alternator air duct to alternator. It has to have an air duct because it is BURIED in the back of the engine compartment
remove air duct neck
remove nut from top stud of alternator
use 8mm socket and many swear words to remove top stud of alternator
wiggle , swear, rotate, wiggle
remove charge wire
remove 3 wire control wire clip
eventually you can remove 3 8mm nuts from back of alternator that releases 2nd piece of air duct
wiggle swear rotate wiggle etc until you can EVENTUALLY get the 2nd piece of the duct out of the space where the axle was
wiggle swear rotate wiggle etc until you can EVENTUALLY get the alternator out of the space where the axle was
*****Pay very close attention to the direction and orientation when it finally comes out as that is the ONLY way to get it back in.****

Reassembly is the reverse of the above steps.
Since I had it apart I installed new serpentine belt, idler pulley, and tensioner.

Now it's time for a cold beverage.

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PostPosted: June 11, 2020, 1:22 am 
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So, Stealership at $120 Hr. x 3 = $360 or so, and the alternator.
Plus whatever they "Find" to also replace.
And people wonder why I resist owning newer cars so hard?
I'm pretty much at the point that the only cars I want are the ones I've built.
Currently barely tolerating a Geo Metro, but I have plans to eventually turn it into a Terrapin.

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Dang Tommy!

A too busy afternoon! Sure sounds like a puzzle Bope ypu did't spill Ny blood.

Now I almost feel guilty for the little struggle I had with the battery cable end on the Frontier. By comparison I only had to open the hood,

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Tommy, that is terribly complicated for what should be an easy swap. Could be worse though...my mom's Audi A4. Pretty much every job beyond simple fluid changes starts with removing the front of the car...bumper, grille, fascia, EVERYTHING.
On the other hand, I would happily swap your job for one I have facing me. Boat is in the water on mooring, but miles from ramp and it has 70 gallons of gas in it with freakin water in the gas!
Pressure will be on soon to fix it as the air and water temperatures are warming up. No matter what I try (it was a full tank going into winter storage with Sta-bil), I always end up with water in the gas. I hate this 10% alcohol gas.
Will pump bottom of tank out till I don't see serious contamination...hopefully dont have to pump out all 70 gallons, spend another $40 on yet another water separator filter (they really dont quite do it, but they do help....maybe). Add back fresh gas to top and hope.
I miss my sailboat...

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So, Stealership at $120 Hr. x 3 = $360 or so, and the alternator.
Plus whatever they "Find" to also replace.
And people wonder why I resist owning newer cars so hard?
I'm pretty much at the point that the only cars I want are the ones I've built.
Currently barely tolerating a Geo Metro, but I have plans to eventually turn it into a Terrapin.


Stealerships here are $150 or more per hour. Local chain shops like Firestone Service are $125-$150.
I decided to get an estimate after all was said and done.

Are you ready? a little under $1000
$300 for alternator
$50 for the pulley
$100 for the tensioner
$50 for the belt
4 hours labor. They tacked on an hour to swap out the pulley and tensioner.

Parts are all costed at a tad over 2X the price at Autozone.

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Dang Tommy!

A too busy afternoon! Sure sounds like a puzzle Bope ypu did't spill Ny blood.

Now I almost feel guilty for the little struggle I had with the battery cable end on the Frontier. By comparison I only had to open the hood,

Cheers!


I left a little DNA on the sharp bits under the car for certain. Looking at my hands and forearms this morning there are little nicks everywhere.

Saturday The Boy is dropping off his 07 Focus for me to replace the thermostat and housing.
That one is goofy too. Best way to access the t-stat is by removing the headlight.

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TooBusy wrote:
4 hours in the garage today replacing the alternator on Wifey Dearest's 05 Ford Escape.
I have known for a long time that I hate Ford engineers; this experience really confirms it. The shop manual calls for dropping the front subframe to replace the alternator and gives the mechanic 3 hours to complete the job.

Not dropping the subframe involves the following
Place car on jackstands or lift. No lift here, so jackstands
remove bottom splash pan to access serpentine belt area
Use long cheater bar to rotate the tensioner and remove serpentine belt
Remove passenger front tire
remove axle nut
remove tie rod end
remove bolt at bottom of knuckle to lower control arm
remove front bolt on lower control arm so LCA can pivot down and outward to release LBJ from LCA
remove 2 nuts holding axle center bearing cup to frame
remove axle
unplug crank angle sensor and tie plug out of the way. you need EVERY BIT OF SPACE to get the alternator out.
remove 2 bottom bolts from alternator
remove 8mm bolt holding alternator air duct to alternator. It has to have an air duct because it is BURIED in the back of the engine compartment
remove air duct neck
remove nut from top stud of alternator
use 8mm socket and many swear words to remove top stud of alternator
wiggle , swear, rotate, wiggle
remove charge wire
remove 3 wire control wire clip
eventually you can remove 3 8mm nuts from back of alternator that releases 2nd piece of air duct
wiggle swear rotate wiggle etc until you can EVENTUALLY get the 2nd piece of the duct out of the space where the axle was
wiggle swear rotate wiggle etc until you can EVENTUALLY get the alternator out of the space where the axle was
*****Pay very close attention to the direction and orientation when it finally comes out as that is the ONLY way to get it back in.****

Reassembly is the reverse of the above steps.
Since I had it apart I installed new serpentine belt, idler pulley, and tensioner.

Now it's time for a cold beverage.

Sounds like about as much fun as the Nissan Murano I did a few years ago. Their instructions involved pulling the rad so there's be room to snake the alternator past the front of the engine and up through where the battery tray usually sits. I was using extensions and ujoints from the other side of the car for a couple of the alternator bolts too. I managed to do it without pulling the rad by knocking the alternator pulley off with my impact, then lifting the engine against the rubber mounts a bit and wiggling the alternator out between the oil pan and subframe. Adjusting the belt tension was real fun too, Nissan built the worst manual belt tensioner setup I've ever seen. To adjust it you have to loosen the bolt that the tensioner pulley sits on, which then sags with belt tension and loosens it. Then you adjust tension from the top of the car, and tighten the pulley from the fender well, and hopefully it's ok when the belt actually tightens up.

The Ford fusion we had wasn't any better, had to drain the AC system and disconnect the lines to do it.
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Today is a much more calm day. Baby Girl came up last night for another long weekend with us. The Boy and The New Wife are driving over from Raleigh tomorrow.

So yesterday afternoon was spent putting in a few plants we bought at the local small landscape nursery.
This morning I put in the last 3; a Spirea, a butterfly bush, and a handfull of purple asters.

The big event for the day is pork shoulder.
First thing this morning dry rub in place.
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Don't hate me for using propane to regulate heat. It let's me spend time in the garage or planting flowers and shrubs while the smoke does it's job.

4 hours in 8 to go.
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Topped up the water in the pan to keep the humidity up and added a handful of hickory pieces.

Now off to the garage to make up a set of spark plug wires.
:cheers:

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TooBusy wrote:
The Boy and The New Wife are driving over from Raleigh tomorrow.


You know Tommy, you set yourself up for this question. I can't help but ask......was there an old wife? :lol:

No matter, your can't go wrong with pork, and a family get together, good on you!

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There is something almost magical about smoked pork butt. A lot of ethnic folk swear by it. My father in law was second generation Czech, grew up just outside the largest Czech population in the USA. There was this one butcher shop in town where we lived that had a really good smoked butt. FIL would always head there whenever he hit town.

Looks like you know your way around a smoker too!

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horchoha wrote:
TooBusy wrote:
The Boy and The New Wife are driving over from Raleigh tomorrow.


You know Tommy, you set yourself up for this question. I can't help but ask......was there an old wife? :lol:

No matter, your can't go wrong with pork, and a family get together, good on you!


No, she just got a new tag. The New Wife instead of The Fiancee.
The WIfe just sounded impersonal to me. :lol:

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There is something almost magical about smoked pork butt. A lot of ethnic folk swear by it. My father in law was second generation Czech, grew up just outside the largest Czech population in the USA. There was this one butcher shop in town where we lived that had a really good smoked butt. FIL would always head there whenever he hit town.

Looks like you know your way around a smoker too!


I like Pig Butts and I cannot Lie, you other brothers can't deny....

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A big Amen! Pork fat is good for the soul.

Now I"m hungry.

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So the city kids and grandkids came out to the farm today. Grandkids did grandkid things shooting BB gun, riding dirt bikes and quads, burning stuff with magnifying glass, and eating. Kid and daughter in law spent time on the deck with wifey and I. They brought out a pretty cool fathers day gift for me.
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The pic size is 20" wide and 14 1/2" high, have to hang it either in my shop or downstairs in the man cave.
Co worker of my son's does this as a sideline. Uses a CNC router set up. Even the skinny black lines are routered.

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