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Author:  TooBusy [ February 17, 2019, 3:27 pm ]
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Update to all
Warren: I looked at the tables, then did the math myself and not happy with anything > 10'9" open span on a 20' wide building.
I ordered LVL 1 3/4 x 11 7/8. 3-1/2x11-7/8 LVL meets the requirements for an 18' span and my span is 16'; so all good, decision made, on to the next step. LVL should deliver one day this week. I'm in no rush as El Nino is in full force with rain every day.

Since I have some 2x12 on hand, it works for the single garage door opening at the back. I framed up the rear wall late yesterday afternoon between showers. Stood it up a few minutes ago so I have a framed horseshoe with some siding in place.

ANNNND it's raining again.

Author:  Warren Nethercote [ February 17, 2019, 4:55 pm ]
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Oooh, that 16ft door went right over my head. I thought we were looking at 12ft. (blush)

Author:  carguy123 [ February 17, 2019, 8:20 pm ]
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You definitely don't want double doors, they are always in the way.

I have an iron beam over my 22' door. It wasn't all that expensive either

Author:  TooBusy [ February 18, 2019, 10:26 am ]
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Holy Brightness Batman, the sun is out!!!!

Taking a day off to knock out some work on the garage framing. Pics later today.

Author:  TooBusy [ February 19, 2019, 9:59 am ]
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Here's a quick rundown of the past few days.
Friday I decided to just jump in and start building. I grabbed the bottom plates and marked for the anchor bolts, then drilled and test fitted. I didn't want to have a wall built and it not slide in place.

Marked the top and bottom plates for studs and started framing. I decided since I was working mostly solo to build the walls in sections for easier lifting. Also decided that I'd like to sheathe them first because it's way easier to work on the flat.
Checking crown of studs.
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About noon we grabbed the first half of the North wall and stood it up.
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And went back to framing to get the second piece ready to go. I got it sheathed and didn't have help I needed to stand it up, so commenced work on the South wall sections.
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When I stood up the second piece of the North wall I noticed the top plates didn't line up. :?
Stood and stared, scratched my head a few minutes, then went out and looked at the sheathing. The bottom plate had some warp in it and my not getting it out and nailing sheathing on I had locked in that warp.
:BH: OK, so saving time cost time and I had to take that piece of sheathing loose from the bottom plate and 2 studs to let the weight of everything press the plate flat to the concrete.


Saturday we stood up walls and Baby Girl bugged out to the mountains as she got a better offer than hanging out with me and hauling lumber. After she left I got to work framing the West wall with a single garage door.
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Sunday was a wet sloppy mess. Rain, rain, and more rain. It cleared up briefly and I called my Brother in Law to help stand up the West wall. It started raining again as soon as he got here, so we stood the wall up and called it a day.

Yesterday was BEAUTIFUL, so I called my boss and told her I wanted to take a day off.
I roughed the East wall including the cripples to support the LVL header then Anne and I stood the wall up, squared and plumbed and nailed that sucker in place.

Second top plates went on 3 walls. I can't do the last one until I have the big header in place.
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It's a box. Sometime today I'll sneak away from the computer and see if I can hang some sheathing.

Author:  rx7locost [ February 19, 2019, 11:32 am ]
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Now it is starting to look like a garage. Congratulations!

Author:  TooBusy [ February 19, 2019, 1:16 pm ]
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Working solo I decided to call Archimedes for help with the sheathing.

I built a simple lever lift to ease the siding in place and to height. I prop it up on the fulcrum boards, set a piece of OSB on and push with a foot while I guide. Once it's where I want it 2 quick shots from the nail gun.

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Author:  geek49203 [ February 19, 2019, 2:39 pm ]
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TooBusy wrote:
Working solo I decided to call Archimedes for help with the sheathing.


glad you explained, otherwise I would've thought you took a bath?

Author:  TooBusy [ February 19, 2019, 2:54 pm ]
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I hung 4 pieces of sheathing with the lever lift and decided it was too much balancing.
On the back wall I pulled a string line and drove 16D nails 3/4 in to support the sheathing 1/2 inch above the bottom of the bottom plate. Rest the sheathing on 2 nails and go wild with the nail gun.

Live and learn

Author:  Miatav8,MstrASE,A&P,F [ February 19, 2019, 6:10 pm ]
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I guess you are planning to add plastic then siding to overhang the sill?For hvac later on? I just used siding without sheathing or plastic, then added a full length ridge vent and perforated soffits with aluminum faced roof sheathing. Works well to keep it comfortable, especially on the first floor. Not fun siding the second floor!

Author:  TooBusy [ February 19, 2019, 8:21 pm ]
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It will get plastic and vinyl siding. The starter strip for the vinyl nails to that 1/2 inch exposed pressure treated bottom plate.
I'm not supposed to have untreated wood within 4 inches of grade and preferably 6 inches.

The do all end off when this thing is finished is insulated with a decent sized window unit AC. For a few dollars more than a standard window unit I can get a heating element too, but haven't decided to go that route. There are few months here when it's too cold to work.

Author:  TooBusy [ February 25, 2019, 5:41 pm ]
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The sun finally came back out yesterday, but we had an engagement party for our son Andrew and his fiancé Luna.
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So today, back in the office; beautiful, sunny, and mild. The LVL header arrived this morning and by about 3pm I couldn't stand it, I had to get the header up.

Cut to 16'9" and set in place using some blocking and bracing so I could "walk it" in position.
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Ta DAAAA
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Tomorrow I have to cut cripples and put on the top plate.
Very pleased with myself on getting the LVL's up.

Author:  geek49203 [ February 25, 2019, 6:09 pm ]
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Will be a wonderful place for the wife / kids to put their stuff, you got a bigger one planned? (ducking)

Hey, it's true... ask me how I know!

Looks great.

Author:  TooBusy [ February 26, 2019, 10:08 am ]
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geek49203 wrote:
Will be a wonderful place for the wife / kids to put their stuff, you got a bigger one planned? (ducking)

Hey, it's true... ask me how I know!

Looks great.


I've offered Wifey Dearest a space in the attic. :lol: There isn't an attic, but there is a good bit of storage for boxes less than 18" tall or so.

The 12x20 storage shed will gain a lot of open space when the garage is finished. The work bench, storage cabinets, welders, compressor, small lathe, and band saw will probably all migrate to the garage full time.
All of my larger not need for the current project will be in the storage shed and will come out to play when needed. Iron bender, tube bender, pan brake, and English wheel come to mind.

I'm watching Craigslist daily for a deal on a lift. :cheers:

Author:  geek49203 [ February 26, 2019, 10:51 am ]
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TooBusy wrote:
The 12x20 storage shed will gain a lot of open space when the garage is finished. The work bench, storage cabinets, welders, compressor, small lathe, and band saw will probably all migrate to the garage full time.
All of my larger not need for the current project will be in the storage shed and will come out to play when needed. Iron bender, tube bender, pan brake, and English wheel come to mind.


You're starting off w/ the same footprint I have. My biggest gripe w. my space is that the room is too low making it tough to use the engine hoist to its full height. Oh, and half of the thing is given up to storage of the wife / son things. I have fantasies about hitting the lotto and tearing it down and building a new pole barn at the back of the lot.

Lighting is also a problem. When the garage door is open that means that about half of the work space is "covered" by the garage door, and no lights in the rafters would get to the floor. That is also compounded by the stuff stored up there (see a theme?) which makes it problematic to simply paint the underside of the roof white.

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