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| Author: | 4agze [ October 12, 2006, 1:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | THE BUILD BEGINS! |
SO I have posted a few times (as mrl3ooogt) and read almost every post on this and the UK site. The time has come. I have a toyota 4agze motor on the way and am done with the first design phase. Now I just need some drive axles, hubs, and a little info. I was wondering which years and models of toyota have the same hubs and axles as the 80's mr2? After that I can just get all the other parts from site's I already have bookmarked. The concept is much like the areal At-om but... lighter, and a single seater. THats right! A 4agze supercharged four banger rocketing a single person to his almost certain death. Well scratch that last part. Anyways I'm all pumped up and just need to know what years and models of toyota share hubs with the mr2. Thank in advance. |
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| Author: | chetcpo [ October 12, 2006, 2:11 pm ] |
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I have no idea about the Toyota bits, but welcome to the site and congrats on getting the ball rolling. |
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| Author: | mr.peabody.d [ October 12, 2006, 2:44 pm ] |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MR2#First_ ... _1983-1989 No idea about the Toyota parts try this forum (below) and post in the MR2 section...lots of specialists there that could be of more help. http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/f10 hardcore tech questions http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/f50 autocross section Good luck we all look forward to hearing about /seeing your build. |
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| Author: | Dave [ October 12, 2006, 3:32 pm ] |
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I'd bet its got a pile of Corolla bits. Maybe some Tercel as well. |
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| Author: | mr.peabody.d [ October 13, 2006, 1:34 pm ] |
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Have you already decided on a frame type/design? Is it going to be smilar to the new MK? 
I think this would be quite an attention getter. Also there is a terrapin 
http://jawfish.proboards43.com/ More terrapin Pictures http://groups.msn.com/Locost/terrapinracecar.msnw http://members.optusnet.com.au/%7Ewayne ... llery.html 
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| Author: | KB58 [ October 13, 2006, 3:06 pm ] |
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I think that's awesome Terrapins are still being made. Staniforth is one of my heros. |
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| Author: | 4agze [ October 13, 2006, 8:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Great links |
WOW, great links. Yes I have a cad design printed out over 50 pages. 2d sections of all the frame components. It WILL need to be changed as I go though. I want this thing to be street legal in california so I dont think I will be able to make it as small as those pictured above but the basic idea is the same except I wont be adding any body panels; just alumi rivited to the side. Esthetics (sp?) are very low on my list of priorities. Think single seater At-om. Still looking on the mr2 site for an answer about the axles... will keep you posted. |
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| Author: | mr.peabody.d [ October 13, 2006, 8:30 pm ] |
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4agze I am in california too...(just above the Salton stink) The top MK single seater could be made street legal with lights, signal, horn, and a windsheild maybe a "bumper". (the volkswagon nerf bars arent quite legal but it seam everyone runs them) (headlight height 24 inches) (under 1500 lbs no fenders needed) You would need to SB100 it ... or install all the smog stuff (yuck) http://www.locostusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=53 http://www.locostusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=546 I will have to wait with great interest to see your design. SIGH |
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| Author: | 4agze [ October 14, 2006, 7:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Info |
Yeah that mk looks great. Mr.peabody do you have any more info or links to that build? |
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| Author: | mr.peabody.d [ October 15, 2006, 1:13 am ] |
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A little banter about the build.... http://www.locostusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=855 More from the UK site http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthr ... ?tid=51834 And from the MK site... http://www.mkdevelopments.co.uk/ I really think this would be possible with a FWD moved to RWD....you had mentioned Atom-esque but side pods would give you side protection if you ever found yourself on the street. I have always like the simpler is better look....(naked, like a bike....if you have a elegant design why wrap it and hide it) but the realities of street use are differentent. If it is a auto-cross bandit leave it naked and show off (sounds strange) especially if you are confiedent in your build. (unless you have plans of building and selling them later...if so wrap it all in black plastic wrap and make everyone guess as you turn in "good" times, then market it, market it, market it!!!!) Are you SoCA or NorCA? |
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| Author: | 4agze [ October 15, 2006, 1:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Got a Q |
After looking at the mk for a good long while I noticed that the front upper and lower A-arms are equal length... while the read were unequal. Wont this make for unequal camber change and cause... well I'm ot sure what it would cause but it seems strange to me. What was the reasoning for this? |
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| Author: | mr.peabody.d [ October 15, 2006, 2:07 am ] |
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Sorry...just the pics and the links any additional information will have to be pulled from else were...I do not know. The MK is a UK car...it would need to be imported if bought from kit. I am not really sure about the suspension equal verses unequal a-arms....It could e a millimeter or it could be more? I am not sure.....My quess is that id you are building your own frame, with a non-standard suspension you may need to design/confirgure your own suspension. (no disrespect intented ... I dont know enough about the build to say). Sorry I couldn't be of more help... |
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| Author: | chetcpo [ October 15, 2006, 9:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Got a Q |
4agze wrote: After looking at the mk for a good long while I noticed that the front upper and lower A-arms are equal length... while the read were unequal.
Wont this make for unequal camber change and cause... well I'm ot sure what it would cause but it seems strange to me. What was the reasoning for this? You are right, equal length arms won't provide much if any camber gain, but like Mr. D says you'll be making your own so you can do whatever you like. The pics I looked at didn't have equal length arms, note the location of the inboard pickup points. |
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| Author: | 4agze [ October 15, 2006, 1:28 pm ] |
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I thought about the equal lengths all last night, little cars buzzing around in my dreams. I think I might have an answer and if its the right one then the equal length A-arms could be very clever. Think about it, all the weight on a midi is in the rear, therefore making the rear more prone to spin and making the front more about to grip. So if you have no camber gain in the front it to is more likely to slip while the camber gaining rear is less likely to slip. The out come is a balanced slide! The front and rear are closer together in terms of maximum G rating and therefore will handle more like a FR setup than a spin happy RR or MR. Interesting.... very interesting.... |
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| Author: | chetcpo [ October 15, 2006, 1:41 pm ] |
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4agze wrote: I thought about the equal lengths all last night, little cars buzzing around in my dreams. I think I might have an answer and if its the right one then the equal length A-arms could be very clever.
Think about it, all the weight on a midi is in the rear, therefore making the rear more prone to spin and making the front more about to grip. So if you have no camber gain in the front it to is more likely to slip while the camber gaining rear is less likely to slip. The out come is a balanced slide! The front and rear are closer together in terms of maximum G rating and therefore will handle more like a FR setup than a spin happy RR or MR. Interesting.... very interesting.... I don't think anyone designs cars to slide except drifters. 
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