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PostPosted: January 20, 2006, 10:58 am 
Here's a thread from OKspeed.com on the buildup of an Ar-i-el At-om by Xtreme Motorsports in Tulsa. Supposedly this car will be street legal when finished. Not a Locost and a rear-engine design, but has some nice pics showing suspension setup and chassis layout. Thought you might be interested.

You may have to join the forum to view the thread, but it's a simple, free process:

http://forums.ok-speed.com/showthread.p ... light=At-om

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PostPosted: January 20, 2006, 11:16 am 
I have been looking for details like this. I am in preliminary deisgn of a "locost" At-om and this will help immensely.


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PostPosted: January 20, 2006, 9:11 pm 
I also have an interest. I would like to know what hubs and spindles are being used?

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I have been looking for details like this. I am in preliminary deisgn of a "locost" At-om and this will help immensely.


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PostPosted: January 20, 2006, 11:33 pm 
I don't know any details on the car. I've been lurking on this site for a few weeks, daydreaming about a Locost, and when I saw the thread on one of my local sites, I figured you guys would be interested.


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The At-om group is the best information I have seen on Atoms. Nobody knows much about them, those that do aren't talking.

Financially it is in their best interests NOT to tell you. (there is money AND market share in the arcane...Think about Lotus before Gram Chapman, by publishing books he diminished both Lotus's intellectual property and market share to some extent) Would you expect them to tell you secrets, skills, part numbers, on how to do this cheaper?


Now think about Lotus drivers driving his $$,$$$ car up to a light and up pulls up a similar car for $$$ (maybe $,$$$, a tenth of the cost or less...) How would you feel?

Someone will unravel it...decode and decypher it.
Some people want to build one for themself, to save money.
Rarer people want to build them for others, to make money.

Either way you slice the orange there is money in secrets............


Ever hear of the gorgon knot?

Just a thought....

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mr.peabody.d wrote:
Ever hear of the gorgon knot?


Isn't that the Gordian Knot?

Tied by Gordius, the king of Phrygia, a knot so complicated that was thought to only be able to be undone by the true ruler of Asia. Eventually, Alexander the Great shows up and stares at the knot for some time before pulling out his sword and cutting the rope making the knot fall apart.

Eventually Alexander conquered the whole of Asia ...

The Gorgons were, apparently, three of the ugliest sisters over ... I think I dated them all in high school ... :)

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Type something insightful and meaningfull post and [Fornicate] it up and the end because I quote a wrong name...I even googled it!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=go ... gle+Search

Only 28, 000 hits, I should have KNOWN!

To get this thread back on track I will do pentenice by researching the At-om sha-bang! With Pictures.....

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Ar-i-el At-om US version
in an email sent out to prospective customers, Brammo Motorsports, the manufacturer and distributor of the Ar-i-el At-om, has revealed juicy info about the U.S. version of its doorless, screenless, roofless wonder. The company has just finished testing the Yankee At-om in Arizona at General Motors’ proving grounds with a 2.0L, 245-hp Ecotec engine. GM engineers were on hand and reportedly mighty impressed by the little car’s trip to 60 that took only 2.8 seconds.

http://www.autoblog.com/2005/12/30/u-s- ... g-ecotecs/
http://forums.autoweek.com/thread.jspa? ... &tstart=30
http://www.automotivearticles.com/123/p ... _USA.shtml
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Autocar 0-100-0 run Video
http://www.autocar.co.uk/popups/video.asp?AR=215770
Lo Res Video
http://www.automotivetech.org/arielatom ... usalow.wmv
Hi Res Video
http://www.automotivetech.org/arielatom ... medium.wmv


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Top gear video
http://www.openwheelers.com.au/videos/5 ... t_20MB.mpg
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found at
http://www.arielmotor.co.uk/04/press.htm

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Available in America
The Ar-i-el — the name harks back to an old British motorcycle manufacturer — is priced from £19,922 ($37,350), but our road-legal test car would trouble the checkbook to the tune of £26,244 ($49,202). It would be easy to spend more than £35,000 ($65,000) on a 300-hp car. Most cars are sold in Britain but Saunders has already shipped rolling chassis to customers in California, Texas and Washington and is "close to signing a deal to export the car to the U.S. market."

This is a lot of money to spend on what is an obviously compromised car. Alternatives such as the Lotus Elise and Caterham 7 offer a similar experience but add an extra dose of all-weather practicality. They would be a more sensible choice but one suspects that few of the 100 or so people who buy an At-om each year are interested in practicality. This car is a toy to be played with.
found at
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Fe ... eId=105504

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Ar-i-el is based at these modest facilities in Somerset, England. A new, larger factory is being built around the corner as demand grows. The company employs between seven and 10 people and is hoping to build 100 Atoms this year.

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10 guys & 100 Ariels a year;
1 guy = 10 Ariels;
($37,350 base price, $65,000 price for 300 HP unit);
10 base priced Ariels = $373,590.00;
100 base priced Ariels = $3,735,900.00

Cost of 10 resonablily priced engineers fabricators? 50k per?

Even if they made 33% profit; $1,232,847.00
/my thoughts


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Each car is assembled by hand and takes around 40 hours to complete. Which is one reason why the At-om is far from cheap. Our test car costs $49,202, but it is well engineered.

Intermission

VW three wheeler
http://autoblog.com/2006/01/04/vw-gx3-o ... s-release/
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http://www.sub3wheeler.com/



too tired,,to con tin ue....

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PostPosted: January 21, 2006, 11:06 am 
Dude youre fucked up. Thats way too much info for me to digest in one post


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What a freak of a post....
What a SPAZZZZZZZZ

One again showing that you should not drink and post...

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Ok the real deal....
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1486310
At-om build up

Video links too

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PostPosted: January 21, 2006, 3:50 pm 
mr.peabody.d wrote:
Think about Lotus before Gram Chapman,

...gorgon knot


Hmmm, 2 for 2. That would be the Gordian knot, and COLIN Chapman. Graham Chapman was in Monty Python. Right country at least!

Good points though.


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mr.peabody.d wrote:
Think about Lotus before Gram Chapman,

...gorgon knot


Hmmm, 2 for 2. That would be the Gordian knot, and COLIN Chapman. Graham Chapman was in Monty Python. Right country at least!

Good points though.


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3 "211 Steel Reserve Malt liquiors" I was lucky to reach the keyboard...

(Besides Gram Chapman is funnier and I an guessing the Gorgon/Gordian knot was a pretty ugly problem to solve)

Amazing...nobody comments on the content. Any thought about the content?
Thank you enderw88 for commenting on the content.
What do you mean we dont get "french" benifits?
(from a commercial)


http://www.atomclub.com/
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http://www.automotivetech.org/photohost ... 526&page=5

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Anyone recognize this?


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Developing a At-om type car?

Have you seen this? Atom-like but "unique" engine choice...

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http://www.twintechcars.com/

A better view of the frame than in any of the Atoms...no curved or arching tube to give away strength


As discussed here...
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthr ... 978&page=1

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