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PostPosted: February 11, 2017, 9:44 pm 
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That car is looking good. You nailed the stance.

For the belt- up from the crank, smooth side of the belt over the PS pump, then loop around the alternator (ribbed side), across the water pump (ribbed side), complete the circuit and the crank. Extendbthe tensioner arm with a smaller pulley? Apply pressure between the water pump and crank on the smooth side of the belt. I don't how short of a belt that is but I bet there's one out there. Can you clock the spring in the tensioner


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PostPosted: February 12, 2017, 2:34 am 
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That car is looking good. You nailed the stance.

For the belt- up from the crank, smooth side of the belt over the PS pump, then loop around the alternator (ribbed side), across the water pump (ribbed side), complete the circuit and the crank. Extendbthe tensioner arm with a smaller pulley? Apply pressure between the water pump and crank on the smooth side of the belt. I don't how short of a belt that is but I bet there's one out there. Can you clock the spring in the tensioner


Thanks for the support Funk. I'm not sure your routing would give adequate engagement on the ps pump. If I understand your routing right, then the ps pump would only have ~60 deg of belt wrapped on it.

I'm thinking I just need some sort of idler up toward where the ac compressor was and a tensioner above and between the water pump and ps pump, then the routing would work. But that is a lot of fabrication to get this to work: I'm basically building a new serpentine setup at that point.

I rebuilt some of the driveshaft tunnel!
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It's funny, the light makes the panel look un-even. In real life it looks a lot better, not that it will be seen when finished. The tunnel forward of this point will screw in place and be removable for access.


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PostPosted: February 12, 2017, 11:38 pm 
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Woke up sore today from the contortionist TIG yesterday, so I worked in the engine bay some:
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I got the wiring harness started. It's tucked behind the distributor, and most of the engine connectors are hooked up. A lot of it still to deal with going into the cab. I'm debating trying to put the computer in the cab, or leave it under the hood like it was in the vette. I need to go pull the rest of the harness out of the vette to continue, but it's buried in the dash and resisted my first 4 hour push to remove it back in the beginning of winter.
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This shows a way I could run the belt if I had an idler pulley up by where the AC compressor was. Though it just occurred to me that I need to make sure I'm spinning the water pump the correct direction, which this routing does not. EDIT: Correction: yes it does.
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Power steering cooler mounted!
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Reservoir and all the lines connected.

That was it for the day. Feels like good progress; though looking through the pictures, it doesn't look like a whole day's work.


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PostPosted: February 13, 2017, 1:11 am 
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Maybe the easiest solution is to buy a new regular waterpump (and grooved pulley) that spins the same direction as the crank, then just route the belt straight around the water pump and over to the alternator. I could then ditch the entire AC and tensioner bracket on the passenger side of the engine. This route would cost in the ballpark of $100 retail. Hmmmm. Opinions?


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I'm using a serpentine belt in my locost, but running it more like an old vbelt setup. I'm using my alternator the tensioner, just like a vbelt setup, and it works good for me. My water pump didn't need to be changed because it already spun the same way as the crank. I'd probably try to keep it as simple as possible.
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I'm using a serpentine belt in my locost, but running it more like an old vbelt setup. I'm using my alternator the tensioner, just like a vbelt setup, and it works good for me. My water pump didn't need to be changed because it already spun the same way as the crank. I'd probably try to keep it as simple as possible.
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I think I'm going to order a water pump. It's the solution I will be happiest with in the long term. I just need to find a grooved pulley for it that isn't an expensive aftermarket version. Anyone know of any cars that used a 5-groove serpentine belt on a short water pump?

I got a solid 4 hours in tonight and got here:
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All welded up!
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Starting to rebuild the rear firewall and fender wells.


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PostPosted: February 21, 2017, 10:21 pm 
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Alright, looks like I need to reload some pics! I'll clean it up a bit this time and only include the important ones to document progress. Here we go:
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Half of the backseat is done!
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This should be good for the belt tensioner. Sturdy and everything lines up well. Note the correct size belt is installed! Weeee! The auxiliaries are all mounted!
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Oo boy do I love a crazy body wiring harness to pick apart and clean up!
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Uggghhh... So many wires. I'm concerned that I can't just remove the BCM and still have the computer work. Isn't the VATS in the BCM? Can you guys give any advice here?


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PostPosted: February 22, 2017, 1:42 am 
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Some Vroom Vrooms were had after this landmark accomplishment today:
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Heel/Toe downshift should work nicely
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The throttle cable is too long, but I don't have a great way to shorten it. It does operate smoothly, even with the hoop in it. It'll do for now. All the parts are off the corvette and I had to slice and bend the pedal to get it routed nicely.


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PostPosted: February 22, 2017, 11:30 am 
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...those wiring harness pics are the stuff my nightmares are made of :shock:

I have nothing to ad except encouragement- I struggle with all things wiring.. you're a braver man than I :cheers:

*your project is coming along nicely btw.. fun to see the newer bits puzzle into the old..

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ccrunner wrote:
...those wiring harness pics are the stuff my nightmares are made of :shock:
I have nothing to ad except encouragement- I struggle with all things wiring.. you're a braver man than I :cheers:
*your project is coming along nicely btw.. fun to see the newer bits puzzle into the old..
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Thanks ccrunner. It's intimidating. I've whittled away a huge chunk of it and am starting to question if it wouldn't be easier to get a Megasquirt and then build a harness with only what it needs. I'm pulling wires and constantly wondering, "Did I just clip a wire that was crucial to the stupid thing working?" I've been pulling body stuff: lights, HVAC, etc. and it just never ends.

Got the rear seat metal nearly finished!
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So I got a couple toys:
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This jack has an easier time moving the car around than the little racing jack. 80 bucks with a coupon.
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This 30 buck welding cart turned out to be quite a bit too small. Until I fab up a new top shelf, the screwed and bolted down 2x4s will make do.

And I got the transmission tunnel roughed in!
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I'm gonna screw this guy down so that it can be removed if needed for future access.


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PostPosted: March 5, 2017, 5:41 pm 
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Worked hard and with the help of my dad, who can identify what wires go where by color and what connectors are what by looking at them, and we turned the wiring harness into this:
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the piece with the fuse block is now in the car up under the passenger side of the dash here:
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Have to strip some wires out of the engine side still, but really good progress! My dad has done this to a couple other harnesses, so he pretty quickly helped me pull out a whole bunch. Here is the box of removed stuff:
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Got a toolchest from Harbor Freight. This is their 72incher and it's a really nice box! If there is interest, I'll write up a more detailed review. It'll help A LOT with organizing and keeping tools put away but still accessible.
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And here is the trans tunnel screwed in place. I've got the little bit at the bellhousing to add in, and the back of the engine access panel to make, then I'm done with sheet metal work in the cab!
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I also put together the column and mounted it in place:
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And for the tally, that's the week's work at ~44 hours.


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Checking the radiator fit and it looks kinda tight.
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Have to cut into this vent here to get it to fit.
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It should work out ok though. I'm thinking about getting flexible HVAC ducting to run up to the firewall so that I can bend it around the control arms and clear everything. The vent on the otherside will feed the intake for the engine. Driver's side vent will be sealed off.

I bought a little heater unit from summit and mounted it under the dash. I'm planning to run some ducting to each defrost vent, and then a vent down towards the floor.
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Plenty of room for everything else still.

Now here is the question: I've put the column together as shown with the original horn button.
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Have I shorted it all out, or will this work? Barring any definitive answer, I'll have to break out the multimeter and check continuity. I'm hoping this works.


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PostPosted: March 9, 2017, 9:15 am 
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I love seeing your updates. I don't know about how the Chevy horn works. But the multimeter is your friend. When in doubt, check it out! I just went thru the same horn button on my Cushman. It turned out OK in the end. however, I was surprised when I finally figured out HW it worked.

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