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 Post subject: Looking for a Kit , "Formula Qne style" ????
PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:26 am 
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Hi,
I'm a newbie here and I found this site by accident and I am glad I did !!! :cheers:
I am looking to build a "FORMULA ONE" style car , and I will be installing a turbocharged Hayabusa engine in it.. Does anyone know of a kit (New or Used) that I could get ? perferrably with a body of some sorts..
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:35 pm 
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One of your best bets may be to look for formula cars related to the SCCA. They have a class or two that are beginning to use motorcycle engines, so transforming those to use the busa motor instead of the 600cc should be relatively straightforward. Your other option is finding some one that has a BEC (bike engine chassis) that is ready for a motor. That would give you a street legal car that is 2 seat and still open wheel. That all depends on your budget and fabrication skill.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:19 pm 
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Right now in the scca they have only one class that uses bike engines, FB aka F1000. These cars are not to be driven on the street and they are no to be driven unless you already have a lot of experience driving open wheel cars. They are almost as fast as formula atlantics on many tracks. Buying a new formula B car would cost between $50-80k however, you can find many very well thought out F2000's (Formula Continental aka FC) that have been converted to FB from $15-25,000 through the following link.
http://www.apexspeed.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=71

There is another class called F500 that currently allows the installation of a 600cc engine on a regional basis. These car's have rubber pucks for springs and friction dampers with a spool rear though. F600 will probably be a national class by next year.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:21 pm 
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One of the more sophisticated and expensive FB's, but this one sold for only $33,000 so there are deals to be had.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:27 pm 
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Yes, you should be able to get an older (no longer competitive) Formula Continental for under $10K, and there are a couple of sources for FC - > FB (Pinto motor + hewland -> Bike drivetrain) conversion kits. Your biggest problem will be getting it at a street friendly ride height without screwing up the handling, but taller tires should get you halfway there.

http://www.apexspeed.com is my favorite site for Formaula Car stuff and classifieds.

This looks like a good starting point http://www.apexspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41325


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Are you looking for a track only car or are you looking to use it on the street? If the latter, how are you going to make it streetable? Lights, fenders, ride height are all going to wreck the F1 look.

Personally I've always wanted to recreate a Cigarette style car from the late 60s.
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Are you looking for a track only car or are you looking to use it on the street? If the latter, how are you going to make it streetable? Lights, fenders, ride height are all going to wreck the F1 look.

Personally I've always wanted to recreate a Cigarette style car from the late 60s.
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Problem is, you have to lay down in those things. At my age, I'd probably fall asleep.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:51 pm 
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http://www.superlitecars.com/nemesis_spec.html

But I would seriously consider converting a Formula Continental or Formula B (1000). Check out whats available here:

http://www.apexspeed.com


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:39 am 
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Problem is, you have to lay down in those things. At my age, I'd probably fall asleep.


They are comfortable that way, but I guarantee you - put that in 1st gear and before you get to second, it will be a long time before you sleep again! That's probably as big as your eyes will ever get.

Early Motorsports on here used to sell a Brabham BT replica from the 60's era that was beautiful. The modern cars look the way they do to carry all the advertising. You just can't get rid of the body area for aero and still afford to run the team. None of that aero is a help on the street or a benefit to a non-professional driver - so I think that era makes the best target for a home built...

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for a Kit , "Formula Qne style" ????
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:21 am 
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The modern cars look the way they do to carry all the advertising.


I read somewhere that the end plates on the rear wing of a Daytona Prototype were made larger for 2011, not to improve aero, but so that they could carry more "Sponsor Identification."

I already didn't like the "Sportscars by NASCAR" design, with the only difference being the engine block and the decals on the nose to identify which "brand" of car it was. I still respect the teams and drivers, and I'll watch 'em if nothing else is on, but really, those cars suck... :ack:

OK, all of that was IMHO... Beat me with a stick if ya want to.
They's still ugly l'il cars. So there!

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I think the OP is starting at the wrong end of things. Get a copy of your local DMV rules and work backwards from that. I've seen a few "F1"-type cars that really were street legal, and they look completely rediculous.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:06 pm 
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KB58 wrote:
I've seen a few "F1"-type cars that really were street legal, and they look completely rediculous.


Yup, wouldn't be seen dead in one or in Photman's case, asleep in one :mrgreen:

For single seaters there are far better choices IMO such as Radical (single seat one), 3 wheelers like the SUB or TRex (yes I know it's a 2 seat but it would give a formula car feel) etc. I think that Nemisis is a aerodynamic CD nightmare for a bike engine.

Check out Gordan Murrays Rocket thingy too. http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/2403 ... ocket.html


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for a Kit , "Formula Qne style" ????
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Hi There,
One of the guys from Locostbuilders.co.uk told me about this, I hope I may be able to help you!

Suggest you take a look at http://www.furorecars.co.uk

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More pics here http://s146.photobucket.com/albums/r243/russbost/#!cpZZ3QQtppZZ32

I can supply anything from a complete kit down to just chassis, suspension, body panels etc. or indeed a complete car road registered in the UK, you would need to research your local regulations as I believe they vary state to state

I do have one Furore F1 kit on the road in Arizona (you should find it amongst those pics somewhere!) & have another kit going out to Canada shortly.Oh, BTW the car is not just a single seater, it has a second seat hidden under the front half of the airbox & is based on modern F1 dimensions. If you're intending to build it yourself you'll get plenty of change from the sort of prices mentioned above. Also would strongly NOT recommend converting an ex-race car (been there done that!) it's a nightmare, the steering/suspension/ground clearance & wiring is all wrong, no handbrake, no collapsible steering column & frequently 13" wheels that you can't buy road tyres to fit - apart from that they're ideal. ;)

We have built several complete cars & had them on the road in the UK & drove one of them to Le Mans a couple of years ago complete with a passenger & camping gear!!! They are based on Toyota MR2 Mk1 parts (which I can also supply if required). The car can be built with the standard Toyota MR2 4age 1.6 16v engine, or a bike engine, we've not used the 'Busa lump but have built several with the ZZR1400 (think it's the ZX14 your side of the pond)

If there is anything else you need to know, just give me a shout russbost at googlemail dot com


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F1-67

I have every single picture from that webpage saved on my computer. AWESOME.

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I have every single picture from that webpage saved on my computer. AWESOME.


That is KILLER!

Any idea of the price point? It can't be cheap, but the site doesn't give any clues whatsoever (usually a bad sign).

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