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PostPosted: March 12, 2013, 9:39 pm 
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Send him the pics and you'll shame him into redoing them.

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PostPosted: March 12, 2013, 9:46 pm 
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Legally you'll need 105 degrees min. 15 deg forward and 90 deg trailing. Whether you need to worry about that is your decision. If I had the choice, I'd send them back.

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I called last night and got a recording. E-mailed him the pictures and the math.... these are 105° IF you measure the length to the tips of the leading and trailing edges. There's a steeper arc (smaller radius) leading edge and a flatter trailing edge.

Got a text overnight saying he'd replace them if I pay return shipping for the old ones... costing me close to $40 extra bucks for his screw up.

Will give him a call later this morning.

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But you said, " I made a STUPID LOW offer; they accepted. "

I think you'll be happier if you go ahead and spend what it takes
to get it right.


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PostPosted: March 13, 2013, 12:01 pm 
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rapt wrote:
But you said, " I made a STUPID LOW offer; they accepted. "


:BH:

Return shipping will gobble up a lot of the savings. Oh well, S. H.

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PostPosted: March 13, 2013, 1:45 pm 
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TooBusy wrote:
Not too bad
They quoted $50 each plus shipping for a 10" wide, 25" diameter, 120 degree arc steel flat top fender with radius on both sides.

I'm also waiting for some info on a Big Dog 11" wide radius top. The descriptions on Big Dog fenders aren't complete enough to know the radius or coverage arc.

Guess not too many math geeks ride Big Dogs. :P


Fifty bucks each ??? Wow ! If any of you visits
Montreal, you can make all four non-rust super-light
aluminum fenders on my shrinker rig, for less than
fifty bucks.
Isn't this forum teaching us all, how to build
low-cost Locosts ?
Buyin' parts and screwin' or boltin' them to
bought brackets is assemblin. and not buildin'.

Fendrum dendrum ergo sum
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Early in my build log I was lamenting the loss of access to our sheet metal shop. Asa result, there are some things that I have to buy, others I can build in my garage with my small assortment of power tools and decent collection of hand tools.

I could form my own fenders in a couple of different ways with the tools I have available.
1. fiberglass over form... That one is pretty easy for me. I could build a plug or a one off female mold and pop out some glass pretty easily (effort, not time required). The cost would still be in the $25-$30 each range when you factor in the tru materials cost.

2. pound the [PooPoo] out of sheet aluminum with a variety of hammers, mallets, dollys, and a leather bag. Chances are they wouldn't be symmetrical and would look like Fido's a$$

I've got a reasonable build budget for this project, so it's a decision to spend time or money. I chose a little more money and a lot less time.

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TooBusy wrote:
Early in my build log I was lamenting the loss of access to our sheet metal shop. Asa result, there are some things that I have to buy, others I can build in my garage with my small assortment of power tools and decent collection of hand tools.

I could form my own fenders in a couple of different ways with the tools I have available.
1. fiberglass over form... That one is pretty easy for me. I could build a plug or a one off female mold and pop out some glass pretty easily (effort, not time required). The cost would still be in the $25-$30 each range when you factor in the tru materials cost.

2. pound the [PooPoo] out of sheet aluminum with a variety of hammers, mallets, dollys, and a leather bag. Chances are they wouldn't be symmetrical and would look like Fido's a$$

I've got a reasonable build budget for this project, so it's a decision to spend time or money. I chose a little more money and a lot less time.



Pounding sheet of metal with a variety
of hammers was done in 12-th century
to fashion shiny armor for brave Knights.
Nowadays one uses shrinker, stretcher,
english wheel etc. to fabricate symmetrical
parts out of metal sheet, which I humbly
offer for free to those who prefer to
use little more time and less cash.
Which is in spirit of lowcost building..

This morning I asked my Psychiatrist
as to who buys new Caterhams and
Birkins. Well, he said that it must be
those who do have a little more money
and a lot less time.

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i went to the trailer shop and bought a fender, took it home and braised in two water hose connections, waxed it with slip wax, put some packing tape over the hose connectors and layed it up on the inside, when it cured i connected a hose and blew it out, then repeated.

just needed a skim of filler where the tape was.

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I got a pair originally slated for the rear, but ended up so small i'll use them for the front. Got them from RecStuff? think it was. They were $39.99 each. but only because I got the 28x8 I believe. I should've got the 30x10. Oh well. live and learn


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PostPosted: March 15, 2013, 8:12 am 
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I'd like to come visit next time I'm in the frozen tundra. I'm actually planning a trip to a supplier in Sherbrooke in April.

Don't know if I have the talent for forming fenders, but I always enjoy learning from craftsmen.

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PostPosted: March 15, 2013, 8:17 am 
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john hennessy wrote:
i went to the trailer shop and bought a fender, took it home and braised in two water hose connections, waxed it with slip wax, put some packing tape over the hose connectors and layed it up on the inside, when it cured i connected a hose and blew it out, then repeated.

just needed a skim of filler where the tape was.


That is one heck of a good idea. Depending on where one were to put the blow out holes, they could be incorporated into the design as drill out holes. :cheers:

hmmmmm

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PostPosted: March 16, 2013, 7:15 am 
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Love it! Well said, Ewhen! We didn't know you wuz a Latin scholar as well as a car guy!

I've been pondering front fenders myself. Every time I drive the Slotus and pebbles wind up scattered all thru the front of the car, I think about front fenders.

Personally, after doing all that fiberglass work on the sidepods and rear, I'm thinking of fiberglass fenders. Probably make a form out of wire mesh, cover it in something (Chuck's paper mache' idea sounded good, or duct tape!) and glass the bejeebers out of it.

I'm pondering... When I get around to actually DOING something, I'll let y'all know... :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: March 16, 2013, 10:31 pm 
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Ewhen wrote:
Isn't this forum teaching us all, how to build
low-cost Locosts ?
Yeah, but it's easy to find oneself buying $500 worth of tools to make a $50 part, and spending a couple hundred hours learning the skills necessary to use the tools.
Ewhen wrote:
Buyin' parts and screwin' or boltin' them to
bought brackets is assemblin. and not buildin'.
Ettore Bugatti felt that way about boltin' things with bought bolts. We all have to draw our own line for when to stop buildin' and start buyin'.

Ewhen, you've a right to be proud of your cars, including your fenders, but I don't think there's a black-and-white division between assembling and building. I know a guy who makes his own headlight buckets, and another guy that casts his own pistons, but me, I take short cuts whenever I find store-bought stuff that suits my tastes and wallet, and -still- I find myself fabricating plenty of specialized parts that I can't find in the Speedway catalog.

But I hear what you're saying, and I roll my eyes at custom car mags that use the term "builder" to describe the guy who wrote the check to Chip Foose.

PS: I am, of course, completely impartial.
PPS: Bwa ha haaa, no I'm not, and those builders with "bought brackets" probably bought them from me.

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If that includes windshield brackets......than it includes me :cry:


yes, there are even things that the guy who builds a fuel tank from a Kenworth battery box will buy!


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