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PostPosted: April 29, 2018, 12:15 pm 
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What size tubing (OD and thickness) did you use for the mounts?

How are the fenders attached to the tubes (all I can see are Clecos)?

Where the mounting tubes penetrate the rolled edges of the fenders, it looks like round holes were made to preserve some of the integrity of the rolled edge. Is that correct or did you make U-shaped cuts?

Are you satisfied with the stiffness of the mounts?

Are those Fenders’n’more flattop fenders?

Your thoughts on using the rock guard coating?


Hey Tom
The tubing is 3/4" .065".
I kinda fab the mounting backwards. I mark the location for the tubes on the fender that looks pleasing to the eye, make a jig for a 3/4" hole saw on the table, raise the hole saw high enough to clear the fender thickness by resting it on some 1/8" ply, turn the fenders on their backs and create the holes keeping in mind to keep fender material all around the tube hole, NO U shaped cuts, this keeps the fender rigidity. Then I fine tune the holes with a round file so that the tube will sit flush to the top of the fender when going through the mount holes and have clearance around the whole tube.
Then I draw a line across the top of the fender that intersects the hole center. Measure the distance for a couple of screw holes that look about right and drill the holes in the fenders. Then I draw a line along the 3/4" tube with a Sharpie, insert it through the side holes and find the sharpie line through the 2 drilled screw holes, mark them, and drill them (removed from the fender of course). I start off with 1/8" holes for Clecos during initial fabrication, but then drill the tubes for 8-32 rivnuts, and drill out the fender screw holes accordingly.
I used 8-32 AN washer head screws to fasten the fenders with no issues to date. I use clear Marine silicone as 'Loctite' to keep the screws from loosening up, yet very easy to remove (I actually use this for all screws on the cars, never Loctite).
With the tubes fastened to the fenders I work backwards massaging them to the bolted mount point on the spindle (this is where the Clecos pay for themselves as you remove and attach the tubes from the fender many many times while fitting them). Once happy with the fitment I install the rivnuts, mount the tubes to the fender, do a final fitment check then weld the tubes to the spindle mount. A cross piece welded in makes everything very solid.
They are flat top fenders from Fenders N More.
I used black rubberized spray undercoat on them before final install.
Done this on all three builds, very happy with the stiffness of the tubes and have yet to have a failure.
The downside of this type of mounting is that the 3/4" tube takes up some clearance between the fender and tire that you have to account for. I have about 3/4" between the mount tubes and tire for the escapement of pesky gravel. This still has the fender looking fairly close to the tire.

Any other questions, don't hesitate to ask


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PostPosted: April 29, 2018, 8:04 pm 
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Thanks, Perry. That's exactly the info I needed. Greatly appreciate the details and pictures. I'll be using a similar (i.e., copied :lol: ) approach on my front fenders (Wilwood spindles) and a modified version for the rears with the fenders fixed to the chassis but standing off the body.

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Hello Perry. I'm new to the forum and your build specifically has my interests. I've wanted to build a car for some time and have decided on an s10 style locust like yours. I was wondering if you would answer my few questions about your build for me.
Question 1
What rear end gear ratio do you have?
Question 2
Did you ever weigh the car, and if yes what was it's weight?
Question 3
Do you know your fuel consumption?
Question 4
What did you use for your power steering pulley delete?

I want to build my locost.more toward a economic daily driver. My goal is 60mpg (US). My dream is to do that with the ability to use a/c. (Make realistic goals, but always wish for more)


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Vorenclex wrote:
Hello Perry. I'm new to the forum and your build specifically has my interests. I've wanted to build a car for some time and have decided on an s10 style locust like yours. I was wondering if you would answer my few questions about your build for me.
Question 1
What rear end gear ratio do you have?
Question 2
Did you ever weigh the car, and if yes what was it's weight?
Question 3
Do you know your fuel consumption?
Question 4
What did you use for your power steering pulley delete?

Hey Vorenclex
This is a late reply to your questions, but this is the first time I've seen my build log since the "crash of '19"
You'll have to wait still some more for the answers for questions 2 & 3 as I will be getting the car road legal summer of 2020.
As for question 1, I don't know and I can't find out til we get home in late March 2020.
Question 4, I used an aluminum plate bolted in place where the PS pump was located and installed an idler pulley on it.


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horchoha wrote:
As for question 1, I don't know and I can't find out til we get home in late March 2020.


Umm, does Lonnie know you're staying that long? :lol:

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horchoha wrote:
As for question 1, I don't know and I can't find out til we get home in late March 2020.


Umm, does Lonnie know you're staying that long? :lol:
SSSSHHHH!!!!! Lonnie hasn't looked in the garage lately... :rofl:

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Hey don't laugh, Lonnie is a great guy to work for, actually he doesn't even make you work, he just feeds you and shows you great hospitality.
Good thing it's only part time else I'd get fatter :rofl:


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I think we're having too much fun out here in Cali-for-nee! :mrgreen:

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Damn! That front slip angle is way too large and the Ackerman is just a muddle.

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Lonnie-S wrote:
I think we're having too much fun out here in Cali-for-nee! :mrgreen:

That’s awesome you guys can get together.

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Back home now and in self isolation (day 4). Snowbirding is over, back to the shop.
I'm putting the Topolino build on hold while I finish this 7 and get it legal.
Incentive for this is that my son painted the fenders and nose cone this winter whilst wifey and I were suffering in Desert Hot Springs.
Firstly I had to shovel some snow to get to the stable where the 7's get stored.
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Hooked up the battery cable, turned the key and it fired right up. Got it into the shop where I re-introduced myself to it.
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Got it up on jack stands and started prepping it to polish the body. Couple of pics of the painted parts. Nice red with and gold pearl clear coat.
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Looks like a Ford hot rod or some such, with no roll bar or grille, in that second picture.

Paint looks good, I take it that was a gun vs spray can?
Where did you het your fenders again?

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Hey Josh

My son used a gun.

Fenders came from here:
https://www.fendersnmore.com/fenderquote.php

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Lovely. Kind of a reverse candy apple red where the base is gold and the clear is lightly tinted red.

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Short update. Started polishing the aluminum. First round done with brown clay. Next round will be red clay.


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Hi Perry,

Thinking of doing some polishing. What is your process? Haven't heard about clay.

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