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 Post subject: Re: KIWI SLOCOST
PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 7:02 am 
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I've never liked the fact an automatic never knows which gear I want to be in, but with this kind of power to weight, who cares? Sounds like fun.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:42 am 
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Will change box to full manual..so will be like driving a clutchless manual will also be tiptronic so 4 in a row..wont have the same engine braking as a manual but im working on a set of special front race brakes that hopefully will let us brake DEEP into corners
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i used to call an old girlfriend "spanner" because she would make my nuts tight.

kiwi, is the tranny a 4L60 or a 4L60 e does it have a cable?

if it does, then going tiptronic isn't going to happen, you will have to get a full manual valve body.

when you rebuild it, you will need a beast.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:52 pm 
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:lol: ya gotta love those spanner girlfriends ...At this stage have only thought about tiptronic..as you say probably wont work.. but this might..There is a kit from TransGo for full manual operation with vacuum controlled main line pressure. This makes the 4L60E manual shift only! :) :cheers: ..but still a LOOONNGG way off yet still have to rebuild the trans ..but first mount it to motor so i can finish motor and trans mounts

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:33 pm 
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so it's a 4L60e then no cable.

look at Baumann controls site, they make control modules to run the trans without a pcm.

for shifting, just get a ratchet shifter.

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Thanks john..i checked out and bookmarked that site for future use
thats exactly what i was looking for..and like you say will work well with a ratchet shifter

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dave,

don't forget, you will need a beast when you rebuild it and probably a five gear planetary set.

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john hennessy wrote:
dave,

don't forget, you will need a beast when you rebuild it and probably a five gear planetary set.


But John, to hear him tell it, Dave is a beast! :mrgreen:

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shhhh JD now everyone knows....John what the :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: is a beast the only beast we have down here are the 4 legged kind.. with horns..
They say to upgrade these parts if intending to put out over 300h/p
Input drum
Overrun clutch hub
Output shaft
Input sprag (for extended high speed/load use in 4th)
Sun gear shell
:cheers: Kiwi Dave

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no! the beast is a type of sun shell that doesn't shear off at the point where the sun gear is welded on.

and anyone from the land where men are men and sheep are nervouse must be a beast

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Im liken this guy ..JOHN.. he sure knows his 4l60e's..and he recognises a beast when he see's one :lol: and yes the sheep are nervous today..As you can probably tell i know stuff all about modern auto trans..Couple of reasons im going with auto ..1/ the chassis is already setup for one ..2/ The holden /buick v6 comes in manual and auto both have different bolt patterns on the crank for the flywheel, mine is auto, ECU is also different,3/ more foot room in the footwell
4/ i like to be different

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when rebuilding, pay special attention to clutch pack hight.

fit a mechanical diode if you can get one

kolene steels

kevlar band

beast sun shell

go to WIT TRANSMISSIONS site where all is available, including selective thickness steels

i have done one or two in the past

when assembling the valve body, do not use thick trans lub jelly to hold the check balls in place, it will give you some strange occurances on start up and run.

i took one back out because of this very thing, only to find that it did the same thing when i rebuilt it a second time till i found this out, then all was good, it will desolve eventually though.

also keep the end play at the lower end of tollerance.

am i teaching granny to suck eggs here, i suspect i am!

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Thanks John have bookmarked site.. probably start rebuild trans in about 3 weeks..that info you gave me is invaluable :cheers:

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Dave, i have to say if its automatic, do you still have to be there?

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:45 pm 
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Ok today i positioned motor and box in car ..sure looked a lot easier to line everything up than what it actually was.. it took age's..now that the sump isnt hanging 2'' below the frame ..if the motor's sitting a bit high ..tuff..nothing like a giant hole in the bonnet and something that looks like a mail box to cover everything wont fix!

The first pic isnt mine but just shows where i have it mounted its in the exact same position
The crap phone pic is mine ..ive gotta recharge my camera batteries :BH:

:cheers: up a bit, down a bit , to low, to high,sideways a bit, tilt it up,move it forward, move it back,twist it left,its not level, :BH: finally its in position :cheers:
Kiwi Dave


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