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 Post subject: Re: A Sexy Volvo...
PostPosted: May 14, 2019, 6:23 pm 
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This series shows the recess welded in, my indecision on which style bumpers to run, and the choosing of where to route the exhaust tips..

On the left are the Volvo 1800 prototype "cowhorn" bumpers (which are incidentally just the front bumpers from this same car)... On the right are the Volvo 1800 OEM 'long' bumpers that came on the rear of these early 1800s (Volvo later severely shortened the bumper side 'spear' that runs up the side of the quarter panel)..

I don't want to do different just for the sake of being different (retrofitting the front cowhorn bumpers on just because I can).. I want to run the bumpers that look the best, and best fit the overall shape of the car..

The more I sit and stare at this, the more I like the 'long' (non-cowhorn) style as seen on the right (Volvo's stock rear bumpers for this year).. very sleek, spear-like, and 'flows' in a jet-age, early-60's kind of way, much the way the rest of the rear of the car looks to me.. ..When I originally conceived of putting the cowhorn bumpers on the rear to emulate the prototype, to truly nail the look, I'd need to morph the two styles together and graft the side-spears onto the cowhorns to copy Volvo's initial vision for this car, and I like the concept, but it's a long way to go if the result is less than pleasing...

Feel free to weigh in with your thoughts on which style bumper looks best to you.. the car is going to paint, but I can make up my mind later this summer and easily run either style bumper...

**also note that I've had to cut off the lower 2-3" of the rear valance due to finding poor bodywork and an excess of filler down there :shock: ... someone did some shoddy work in this rust-prone area, and I just couldn't leave it in there.. a new lower patch panel has been ordered and it will be fixed 'right' :wink:

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PostPosted: May 14, 2019, 6:56 pm 
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With the recess, the right side bumper looks far and away the best.

Left side upturn clashes with the plate area something fierce.


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PostPosted: May 14, 2019, 7:09 pm 
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@Mathsci.. I forgot to respond to your pic from the last page... yes, yes, yes, that recessed plate in the drawing is where I'm headed.. The P1800 pictures from Mattias Vox (2009) on the re-imagined 1800 are stunning... I know some of what he's drawn won't work in the real world, but most of it does.. super cool.. For those that want to see that drawing come to life, Google "68EFIvert," a guy named Derreld is building a 68 that will be phenomenal when it's done.. a no-expense-spared build that will truly be a one of a kind..

@300D50.. I'm having a hard time with the flow on that left side too.....

Here are some pics of what Volvo was doing with the prototype design for this car in the earliest stages.... it's interesting that most of the rest of the car made the leap to production, but this rear area was noticeably changed... maybe for good reason :?


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PostPosted: May 14, 2019, 7:58 pm 
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I think I have it figured out.

The upturn ends near the lower edge of the prototype, and angles nicely into it.

Your mockup has the end of the upturn about mid-plate, which seems to be the issue.

With where your plate recess sits, the flat bumper points to the lower corner, like the prototype, and it all flows together.


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PostPosted: May 15, 2019, 2:07 pm 
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300D50 wrote:
I think I have it figured out.

The upturn ends near the lower edge of the prototype, and angles nicely into it.

Your mockup has the end of the upturn about mid-plate, which seems to be the issue.

With where your plate recess sits, the flat bumper points to the lower corner, like the prototype, and it all flows together.

I think you've nailed it... the eye doesn't like that upturn mid plate.. the 'flat' bumper on the right levels in just where you think it should.. I'll have to play with the elevation of the left side bumper to see if I can get it to flow into the recess better.. I rather like the way it looks on the prototypes..

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PostPosted: May 15, 2019, 2:44 pm 
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If you "un-bent" the upturn a bit to a shallower angle, and increased the bend radius (start near where the jack pad is?), you may be able to coax it into compliance.

My minds eye wants to see the bumper upturns meeting at the exact middle of the plate if extended.

I'm rubbish with MS-paint, so it's all text on my end.

EDIT: One other idea, is to have the sides of the plate cutout follow the bumper contour. Think sides of the Atari logo.


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300; If I sweep those plate sides/body line down and out, the Atari logo is all I would see :lol: ..I'm still toying with this... maybe once out of paint, I can cobble together the two separate bumper styles (prototype/left vs. production/right), and run each different set for a few weeks to see which I like better- then I can rechrome/mod whichever set I choose to finally use..

The set of pics are of the pass-through tips being cut in.. The tips themselves are stainless 2.5 OD (rolled edge), and the stainless trim rings are sourced from an early Mustang GT.. As they're going in, I think they might be a little bigger than I'd like, but I know perspective changes once you get all of the pieces in place and quit staring at the part you're obsessing about :roll: .. ..It will also help visually once I get the lower patch section of the valance up into place..

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May 15, 2019..

A few last pics of the rear- this time with the exhaust pass throughs mocked into place, and with the stock 63 bumpers roughly where they belong.. I like this look, but I'm a fickle, fickle builder, so I'll make a final decision later, once she comes back in paint.. and speaking of paint....


....It's been about 4 months since the 'incident in the rain," and now she's off to the body shop :cheers: ..This is a milestone I didn't want to rush, but I'm glad it's finally here.. I've repaired/replaced/modded to the best of my ability to get to this point where I hand it off to a pro to do the finish (read: difficult, time-consuming, 'pretty') work :wink: .. Even with these last few months of effort on my part, I fell a bit short.. This last weekend I found some crap bodywork in the lower rear valance, and the patch panel didn't make it in time, so I'll have bodyman Alex mod that part in..

So there she is about to be strapped to the dolly.. I'm not used to having my vintage baby out of my sight, but that's the way this goes.. gotta hand it over for the next month or two.. so weird walking out into the garage and not having the car there.. my heart drops for just a second thinking it's been taken :shock: ..

The plan at this point is to now focus on our relocation in a few weeks, ideally get the Volvo back once settled, and spend whatever time is needed this summer to get her into top shape (I'm having the chrome done too).. This year I'll miss the Pismo car show I was entered in, and the Hot August Nights show in Reno (I'll miss that one because of my work schedule).. by this August/Sept (2019) she should be as about as good as she'll ever be under my stewardship... To keep the fire lit under me, I've entered the National Volvo meet in San Luis Obispo (SLO) this September (aka: SLORolling Festival; 2019 VCOA National Meet).. ..this is to be held right in my 'new' central coast backyard.. cool 8)

Let's see if the plan holds up.. at least there should be not be another "incident in the rain" this summer :lol:

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