KB58 wrote:
It's surprising how some still defend swapping from EFI to carbs. What they forget are all the downsides which are glossed over in the "but it's simpler" belief system. When's the last time you drove a carbureted car?
1. Remember vapor lock, sitting in traffic and having the fuel boil, solved only by pulling off and waiting for it to cool?
2. Remember how cold-starts were an iffy smelly situation, made worse if the choke wasn't working right?
3. Remember flooding?
4. Remember having no idea what the mixture was, and no idea where to get parts or which ones to order even if you did?
5. Remember when carburetors, the manifold, and tuning, cost less than an EFI setup?
6. Remember when you and your clothes reeked of gasoline, even when the car was running right?
7. Remember shutting off the car and having it diesel for 5-20 seconds?
8. Remember driving up mountains and the car struggling more and more as it slowly drowned itself in the richening mixture?
9. Remember having a float get a hold in it and how long that took to diagnose?
10. Remember disassembling the carburetor to clean it and shooting a stainless steel check valve at Mach 7 into the dark corner of your garage?
No? I do.
Go ahead, knock yourself out, I guess you'll be the one laughing in TEOTWAWKI - bonus points if you know what that is, though you'll be outing yourself if you do, bunker, beans, bullets, and all.
Guess I have not posted here enough yet, you still don't know me!
I'm the guy that drives almost exclusively carb fed cars!
Trying to rid of almost everything made after the advent of computers in cars.
Gave the Miata to my mother, PS, PB, and AC in a "Sports Car"?
Last instance of vapor lock was over twenty years ago when I was forced to buy Alky-gas in Iowa, route the lines correctly and it's not an issue.
My 350 Chevy with quadra-jet and electric choke starts fine even in winter.
Webers have a cold start circuit too, might have to pump the accelerator a bit but they start fine.
Flooding is the result of not running a fuel filter, or a damaged float, not an issue that comes up for me.
Carb mixture is easy to adjust, even on SU's, Colortune is a neat analog tool.
Carbs still cost less than EFI, often a LOT less.
ECU, injectors x ?, MAF and other sensors, NOT going to be cheaper than a carb and manifold unless you need IDA-3's.
Nope, don't notice any gasoline reek unless I've had to depressurize an FI system.
Diesling cars, maybe a very long time ago when KNOX systems were in use (They screwed up the timing), or the owner failed to keep the car in tune.
Slower and slower as the mixture gets richer?
Sure, that's why Webers are great, you can change jets in a minute at the side of the road!
And despite claims to the contrary unless you have a turbo altitude does still affect injected cars, been there and noticed the reality.
Holed floats have never been hard to diagnose, leads to over rich mixtures and eventually flooding.
I've never ejected a carb part when rebuilding.
Sounds like your carb experience must be with old VW bugs and their crappy Solex's.
Seems the spirits of Triumph and Lucas are already punishing me for my blasphemous thoughts, lifted the GT6 bonnet for an engine pic and got swarmed by wasp.
Right hand is now pretty swollen and nearly useless.
If the GT6 does not sell I may indeed just warm up the stock engine, compression, cam, headers, Webers.
Maybe swap in modified GT6+ rear suspension.
Had GT6's in the past, really plenty of power for civilized driving and so much better looking than ANY of the new insectoid production.