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PostPosted: April 14, 2016, 10:55 pm 
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Hello.. first post here.
I just won the auction on this baby http://www.ebay.com/itm/322066555709?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

I can't wait to have it delivered. First thing I need other than a bikini top(hot here in Atlanta) is reverse gear. I'm not mechanically inclined and don't have the time so do any of you guys know how many hours a mechanic would charge to install a reverse gear or an electric starter? Or I guess a bigger question would be what kind of mechanic do I take it to? lol


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PostPosted: April 15, 2016, 10:25 am 
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Welcome and congratulations. Looks to be a very nice build.
As to your question, it will be quite difficult to install a reverse at this point, but not impossible. The car appears to have a RX7 rear end, which is a solid rear axle, and for an electric reverse, you will need to make a number of modifications. That will depend on the drive shaft that has been built, the amount of space available etc. It will involve a fair bit of fabricating, which, if you contract it out, could be quite expensive. Here is a little video that I made to show how I did it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdObULcKL94
I think that you will find that the car is very easy to push, and you may not need to go through that expense. I only use my reverse if I am strapped in, and need to back up quickly. Normally, I just push.
You can also research the Quaife reverse box, but it will add up quickly to be pricey.
Feel free to ask more questions.

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some jurisdictions require reverse gears on vehicles to pass inspection, so that may be why he is looking into it.

also, it looks like it has a GSXR motor/Transmissions with an rx7 turbo II rear end from the description.

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PostPosted: April 15, 2016, 10:54 am 
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I too also recommend just pushing it backwards. At least the first year or so. That will give you time to think about it.

I once saw a cordless drill being used for reverse. I'm not remembering the details now though.

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It was an 18v Dewalt cable tied to the frame! I remember that haha!

IIRC he had a sprocket mounted on the pinion flange and another mounted in the drill chuck with a one way bearing. It would spin the chain and bearing forward no problem, but wouldn't engage until he tried to reverse the car with the drill. the gear reduction was large and it was slow backing up, but it got the job done.

to avoid the battery powered thing.. you could probably use one of the 12v cordless impact drivers they sell for emergency roadside use and hardwire it to the car.

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to avoid the battery powered thing.. you could probably use one of the 12v cordless impact drivers they sell for emergency roadside use and hardwire it to the car.


I've wondered about air tools too, but I think this is a better idea, you already have a battery and with the motor running it will recharge quickly...

I wonder what you use for a source for the oneway bearing or clutch thing. It's the kind of thing they use on a motorcycle kick starter, there simple just a few ball bearings on ramps. I don't know how you would easily adapt one though without machine tools.

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They make smaller needle bearing ones as well. I'd always envisioned it as a press fit bearing into a sprocket, and then the inner hub is either press fit or keyed to a small bore chuck that fits in the head of the drill/ driver.

In theory.. you could always swindle one off a childrens bicycle ha!

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to avoid the battery powered thing.. you could probably use one of the 12v cordless impact drivers they sell for emergency roadside use and hardwire it to the car.


I've wondered about air tools too, but I think this is a better idea, you already have a battery and with the motor running it will recharge quickly...

I wonder what you use for a source for the oneway bearing or clutch thing. It's the kind of thing they use on a motorcycle kick starter, there simple just a few ball bearings on ramps. I don't know how you would easily adapt one though without machine tools.

They can be sourced as replacement starter ("sprag"-type) clutches for electric-start Taiwanese tykes'-sized quads. I just fixed one for a friend - he rebuilt one of these quads for his grandson, and although the starter ran fine, it wouldn't engage on the crank. We took it apart, and found one of the 3 roller-extension springs was crushed. A quick trip to the dollar store, bought one of those 9-color ballpoint pens, and we had 9 working springs, of perfect tension, to fix it.

Those clutches are nice & sturdy, and I suspect very, very cheap (I took a quick look - lots of Ebay suppliers for around $25-$35). And, once the rotation disengages them, there's no further contact, so no bearings to wear except during actual engagement time.

The matching starter motors are cheap, too (again, Ebay - lots, brand new, for under $22) - it would be seriously easy, I suspect, to rig one of these, with its clutch, to a sprocket on the driveshaft (after all, the starter & clutch are already designed to drive via a chain). The starters don't draw much power, either.

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Hey

I am in Atlanta (Sandy Springs) and I am about to convert my CEC locost to ZX12 BEC.

Congrats, you got a great looking car. I am planning on pushing my car as I feel light weight is the most important thing. However if you want reverse I would consider doing electric reverse. A lot of the UK kit suppliers have electric reverse parts, for example:

http://scottishkitcarcentre.com/conv-bike.php
http://www.mksportscars.com/parts-c3/bi ... r-parts-c6
http://www.kitcardirect.co.uk/
http://www.abperformance.co.uk/default.aspx

Maybe call AB performance in UK, the guy who runs that shop is supposed to be very knowledgeable and smart about BECs.

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markclow wrote:
Hey

I am in Atlanta (Sandy Springs) and I am about to convert my CEC locost to ZX12 BEC.

Congrats, you got a great looking car. I am planning on pushing my car as I feel light weight is the most important thing. However if you want reverse I would consider doing electric reverse. A lot of the UK kit suppliers have electric reverse parts, for example:

http://scottishkitcarcentre.com/conv-bike.php
http://www.mksportscars.com/parts-c3/bi ... r-parts-c6
http://www.kitcardirect.co.uk/
http://www.abperformance.co.uk/default.aspx

Maybe call AB performance in UK, the guy who runs that shop is supposed to be very knowledgeable and smart about BECs.

Mark Clow



Mark, I've actually given up on the reverse gear and now focusing on putting a Hayabusa engine in. The gentleman who built it thinks the mounting spots are the same as the current engine which is a GSXR1000.
I'm also in Sandy Springs. You're welcome to come by and see it. Or if you go to caffeine and octane show I'm usually there.


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PostPosted: February 22, 2017, 9:09 am 
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On page 2 of this link are photos of the drill powered reverse:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4879&start=15


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