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Author: | NCLBNY [ April 10, 2015, 5:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Rollcage as a replica frame |
I have been having random thoughts of buying a 1970 Charger recently but this proposes a couple problems: 1) Finding a good one 2) The prices keep rising I love the muscle car look, sound, and power, but not so much on the handling. Also old car interior quality should not be hard to mimic in a self made car. So I had a theory to solve a lot of this, build a tube frame using a roll cage designed for the car as a base to branch off of($400 from Jegs) then buy body panels from year one (about $11-12000 for almost everything external) and build the silhouette car this way, could maybe finish in the total range of $30-35000. I am no engineer so I only have this as a theory. Advantages: Probably lighter weight You get to have the satisfaction of building it yourself stiffer chassis could easily do IRS on a 1970 charger! less space restrictions then a traditional locost Roll cage safety Lower price point then Good real ones Could be built to really surprise people at autocross and track days NO RUST to deal with Disadvantages: Using a roll cage usually means no rear seats could be put in (I have kids and this is a large appeal of muscle cars over sports cars to me) Not as LOW cost as traditional builds will never be a real collector (but this is not the point) Rollcage access lining up body panels could and will be a NIGHTMARE Will have a crap load of hidden build costs So lets share thought and someone please tell me this is the worst idea ever so I do not feel this is a better path then my current traditional 5.0 build... I am still so early in the build that it would not feel like a great loss just "extensive welding and cutting practice". |
Author: | wrightcomputing [ April 10, 2015, 11:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Rollcage as a replica frame |
I would say that if you want a 1970's dodge Charger then buy a 1970's Dodge Chagrer. If you want to build your own car then do it. for $20K you should be able to build an amazing Locost but I think if you try to make it look like a Dodge Charger you will be disappointed with the finished product. I think you would be much better to make your own unique car and have some cool features from a 1970 Dodge Charger like the grill or lights. I met this guy briefly and he has spent something like $40-50K (at this point) on this Lambo look alike. I thought it looked really bad and when you looked closely it was really really bad. It was still a shitty old Fiero and where they attached the body work with steel was all rusty and it was just a mess and yes the roof and hood are attached with duck tape. Attachment: Lambo.jpg Attachment: Lambo 2.jpg Could it be done, sure but I think trying to remake a car to exact specifications is a very difficult task. But here is a cool example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjG_qizpLek |
Author: | egoman [ April 10, 2015, 11:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Rollcage as a replica frame |
http://www.pro-touring.com/threads/4026 ... r+chevelle Look at this build and you can get an idea of how to do it right. If you acquire a former nascar chassis then you are 1/2 way there. |
Author: | NCLBNY [ April 11, 2015, 12:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Rollcage as a replica frame |
That Chevelle is exactly what I was thinking. Though I was not thinking of getting a Nascar frame, more making my own. It is however a good thought. |
Author: | Driven5 [ April 11, 2015, 1:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Rollcage as a replica frame |
I've had similar thoughts, except using a fiberglass "OEM Style" doorslammer body from Suncoast Race Cars/Advanced Fibre-glas Concepts. I don't think they have any old Mopars though. |
Author: | egoman [ April 11, 2015, 6:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Rollcage as a replica frame |
Hopefully this summer, I have a friend who has a 65 comet convertible that has no undersides left. The idea is a complete tube frame underneath with a 3 link rear and a complete asphalt stock car front suspension. Don't worry I will post a build log when I start. My idea is silhouette assassin. Believe you me, it will be the next big thing. |
Author: | horizenjob [ April 12, 2015, 12:04 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Rollcage as a replica frame |
The only real problem I see here is that it should look like a 68 Mustang. If I remember this story right, the people who drive Chargers wear black gloves, develop bad attitudes and explode gas stations. If you have kids that's what I would worry about... |
Author: | turbo_bird [ April 12, 2015, 1:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Rollcage as a replica frame |
I want to do something similar with a 63 Falcon. I never thought about buying a used roundy round chassis though, that's a good idea. Kristian |
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