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blueribbonseven
 Post subject: Re: Rust_Bucket's FlyW8 1.8L Miata Based Build
PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:45 am 
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Rusty,

I think Keith Tanner always ran his car without the cover. You might zap him an email about any problems.

Your car is SUH-WEEEEEEET !!!!!!!!! 8) :thmbsup: :hail:

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 Post subject: Re: Rust_Bucket's FlyW8 1.8L Miata Based Build
PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:12 am 
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Rusty-
Seems to me like Ford Fiesta's and/or Festiva's ran open cam drives, and I'm pretty sure some Fiats did as well. The ones I'm remembering may have been "race cars" and not the street versions, however.

Sure would look cool! Paint the cam gears to match the car...


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 Post subject: Re: Rust_Bucket's FlyW8 1.8L Miata Based Build
PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:22 am 
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I recommend against it. Do you really want the first contact surface that the hood may touch to be your timing belt?
Besides, I think your car will look cool with a little power bulge 8)

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blueribbonseven
 Post subject: Re: Rust_Bucket's FlyW8 1.8L Miata Based Build
PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:42 am 
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Moti makes an excellent point regarding the hood contacting the cam belt. How about running the cam exposed, but with a lexan see-through power bulge? ooohhhh...visible moving parts !

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 Post subject: Re: Rust_Bucket's FlyW8 1.8L Miata Based Build
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"Power bulge"???
"Hood"???
"Cam drive"????

The solution to all your problems is shown below... :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Rust_Bucket's FlyW8 1.8L Miata Based Build
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I recommend against it. Do you really want the first contact surface that the hood may touch to be your timing belt?
Besides, I think your car will look cool with a little power bulge 8)

Moti


I feel the same way... That's why I have a little "power bulge"


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 Post subject: Re: Rust_Bucket's FlyW8 1.8L Miata Based Build
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GonzoRacer wrote:
Rusty-
Seems to me like Ford Fiesta's and/or Festiva's ran open cam drives, and I'm pretty sure some Fiats did as well. The ones I'm remembering may have been "race cars" and not the street versions, however.
JDK


You've actually met a Festiva "race car?"
Bwahahahaha. That's a good one! :lol:

Maybe a SHOgun 8), but a Festiva!?... :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Rust_Bucket's FlyW8 1.8L Miata Based Build
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rust_bucket wrote:
GonzoRacer wrote:
Rusty-
Seems to me like Ford Fiesta's and/or Festiva's ran open cam drives, and I'm pretty sure some Fiats did as well. The ones I'm remembering may have been "race cars" and not the street versions, however.
JDK


You've actually met a Festiva "race car?"
Bwahahahaha. That's a good one! :lol:

Maybe a SHOgun 8), but a Festiva!?... :shock:


Actually, my buddy James, who is helping with my Locost build, raced a Festiva or a Fiesta (I don't remember which one) in SCCA a few years ago.

If you think about it, it makes a good SCCA club racer:
1) Cheap
2) Available parts (at the time)
3) If ya wreck it, you ain't out much!

If it's still running around out back of his shop, I'll send ya a pic!

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 Post subject: Re: Rust_Bucket's FlyW8 1.8L Miata Based Build
PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:58 pm 
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There's a small but real danger of having a small stone bounce into the cam gears and causing it to slip a tooth or two. At best it starts running funny, at worst it bends the valves and punches holes in the pistons...

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 Post subject: Re: Rust_Bucket's FlyW8 1.8L Miata Based Build
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GonzoRacer wrote:
"Power bulge"???
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"Cam drive"????
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The solution to all your problems is shown below... :shock:

This is the answer to all 7s.......except the driver sitting on the "wrong" side.

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 Post subject: Re: Rust_Bucket's FlyW8 1.8L Miata Based Build
PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:03 pm 
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egoman wrote:
GonzoRacer wrote:
"Power bulge"???
"Hood"???
"Cam drive"????
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The solution to all your problems is shown below... :shock:

This is the answer to all 7s.......except the driver sitting on the "wrong" side.


Yo, Ego- Those wacky Brits, don't know why they went and did a thing like that, do you? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Rust_Bucket's FlyW8 1.8L Miata Based Build
PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:04 pm 
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KB58 wrote:
at worst it bends the valves and punches holes in the pistons...

The BP and B6 are non-interference motors, so that can't happen.

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 Post subject: Re: Rust_Bucket's FlyW8 1.8L Miata Based Build
PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:46 am 
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rust_bucket wrote:
GonzoRacer wrote:
Rusty-
Seems to me like Ford Fiesta's and/or Festiva's ran open cam drives, and I'm pretty sure some Fiats did as well. The ones I'm remembering may have been "race cars" and not the street versions, however.
JDK


You've actually met a Festiva "race car?"
Bwahahahaha. That's a good one! :lol:

Maybe a SHOgun 8), but a Festiva!?... :shock:


Hey Rusty-
Well, my memory kinda did deceive me about some/most of this discussion. The small, FWD race car James drove was a Fiesta.
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The "open" cam drive I was remembering was not on that car, but on his other racer, a Pinto! (Yes, a Pinto... I'm not makin' this up!)
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 Post subject: Re: Rust_Bucket's FlyW8 1.8L Miata Based Build
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:51 am 
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You've never seen a Festiva race car? lol!


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 Post subject: Re: Rust_Bucket's FlyW8 1.8L Miata Based Build
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Your car is looking great!

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