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 Post subject: Buddy Club Seats?
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 11:46 pm 
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Wondering if anyone out there has any experience with Buddy Club seats - specifically these:

http://www.procivic.com/pages-product_car_part_info/category-73_102/product-475/interior-seats-buddy-club-racing-spec-bucket-seats.html

I don't think they aren't the best out there, but I'm looking for something that is acceptably comfortable, snug, and relatively cheap - the price on these is enticing vs the Cobras, Sparcos, etc. I've heard the wide version of these is the way to go for someone of my frame - ~5'11", 175lbs.

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 1:04 am 
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Is that $375 per seat? You can pick up a set of Kirkeys for a lot cheaper...

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 Post subject: Re: Buddy Club Seats?
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 2:38 am 
You'll want to check on the width of the seats in the areas that are down inside the frame. Locosts are notoriously narrow, and a lot of aftermarket seats (and very, very few stock seats) simply won't fit without a fair bit of frame redesign or modification. I suspect the wider version of these seats simply won't go at all.

I'm using 1st-gen Miata seats because they're very narrow to start with. Even so, I had to modify them to fit into the frame. Usually there is no more than 18-20" width available in a Locost frame IIRC...

I'm just saying...


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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:44 am 
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At that price range, I'd be looking at the Corbeau FX1 seats. You can get them in three different widths.

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:28 pm 
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I have the FX-1 Pro's for my car (442E) and they were the only reasonably priced and comfy seats I could find :cheers:

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 Post subject: Re: Buddy Club Seats?
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:03 pm 
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Seat width will not be a problem, as I am going to be designing the chassis and if it needs some extra room, it will be granted.

The Corbeau FX1's were another seat i was looking at, and appear to be decent quality so it's good to hear a confirmation.

As far as the Kirkeys go, they may be a lot cheaper, but personally i can't stand the way they look. Sure they're cheap, light, and functional (can't go wrong there) but i can't get past the styling....

Does anyone have experience specifically with the Buddy Clubs?


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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 10:56 pm 
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Are the FX1 Pro seats appropriate for a guy who is skinny and 6'3"?

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:46 pm 
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killernoodle wrote:
Are the FX1 Pro seats appropriate for a guy who is skinny and 6'3"?

When I get back from Europe you are more than welcome to come over and give mine a try to see if it fits you :cheers:

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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 1:38 pm 
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reddeth wrote:
Is that $375 per seat? You can pick up a set of Kirkeys for a lot cheaper...

Sure, and you can pick up a used go-cart seat for $25 or go with a couple of Sparco competition seats for just over $4000, so what does it mean?

Honestly, every aluminum seat I ever had my butt set in was as comfortable as a bed of nails and was seriously painful after a short period of driving around.
Some users have posted before that the aluminum seats can be adjusted (read: bent) to match the driver and be much more comfortable.
I don't know, I haven't set in one that was bent to fit me yet but I'm not really comfortable with the fact that the structure that's supposed to hold me in safely can be deformed like that.
In that sense, compsite shells make much more sense.

RE: Buddy club seats -

If you're going for something at that price level, beyond the obvious question of fitment in the chassis, here are a few suggestions.
Try visiting a showroom in your area to try sitting in as many different seats as possible, or alterntively, the local racetrack / autox. Most racers will be happy to let you jump in their cars to try the seat.
This is a price bracket that you can already have seats that carry FIA cert and that's a good thing

Take note of the height of the shoulder harness slots.
This is something that's especially important for tall guys, you'll find that the vast majority of racing seats simply have the shoulder slots too low for comfort and safety purposes, harnesses have to be installed within certain angular requirements to work properly.

If you intend to run the car at track events or autox you'll want a seat that the width at the shoulders is narrower than for a car that will be used primarily on public roads.
The reason is that in a street car you're more likely to require the seat to be more comfortable for cruising while when driving at speed you'll something that holds you in place better so you're not moving around.
A good way to test for correct shoulder width is to sit tight in as if you were strapped in and stretch your arms forward as if you were holding the steering wheel at 9 and 3 and turned it 90 degrees.
In this position your shoulders are narrower than when your arms are straight and that's the point because this is the position you'll be sitting in when your body will see side loads.
The seat that will fit you well is the one that still holds you in properly when you narrow your shoulders as described above, this is the reason for wanting a narrower seat for track / autox use.

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 Post subject: Re: Buddy Club Seats?
PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 3:35 am 
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Well put Moti


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 Post subject: Re: Buddy Club Seats?
PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 1:03 pm 
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Thanks for the replies, guys - the Corbeau's it is...right now my thinking is that this will mostly be a "daily driver" (depending on how much i can drive it, from an insurance perspective), not so much autox, though this may change in the future.


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 Post subject: Re: Buddy Club Seats?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:22 pm 
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Hey Killernoodle if you want to come over and try out the seat I'm back from Europe, just give me a ring if you want to come cheack out the seat :ack:

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 Post subject: Re: Buddy Club Seats?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:27 pm 
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The look nice. I'm 6' and about 230-240 depending on the pizza intake, and I need all the back and shoulder room I can get. Ive been intrigued by the seats Ive seen in high end Buggies-gokarts. I did a little research last weekend. I found seets that look quite nice, made for very small spaces, lika a locost interior for as little as $98. I also found that they have many of the same design constraints. such as a fairly large center tunnel, so many seats are sold in pairs a left and a right, and are asymetrical. I really tink these would work well in a locost, and look a lot better than my Kirkey seat.

Check Carter Buggies as a place to start. http://www.gokart-scooterstore.com/634-6002.aspx


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 Post subject: Re: Buddy Club Seats?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:48 pm 
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http://www.tillett.co.uk/car-racing-seat.asp check this site out


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 Post subject: Re: Buddy Club Seats?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:16 pm 
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Ive seen these tillet seats before. Personally, they leave me cold. But so do my Kirkey seats. Id have something like this if I were racing my car, but mine is intended for road use. Nothing major, not replacing the family car, but comforatable enough so that you aren't cursing the seat after a 30 minite ride to get coffee.

I think any seat i'd choose must have some padding, on the seat bottom and marginally on the back. But just about any seat bottom that does have padding and decent upper body support also has side bolsters on the seat bottom, and these are just a waste in the locost chassis. They take up prescious room and don't do anything but squeeze your cheeks together in such a small space. any lateral support you need is covered by the fact that you are shoehorned in place.

Again, I'd suggest taking a look at these high end Buggie builders. appearently, the buggy crowd makes a distinction between their sport and the go-kart crowd. Buggies are off roaders and more sophisticated than karts. At least that's my take after an hour or two of researching their sites. The seat on the Carter model in the link below is not ideal, but pretty close. I did find one with good padding, upper and lower, but no bottom seat cushon bolsters to eat up available space. I'll try to find it again.

http://www.carterbro.com/matrix300_home.html



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