mgkluft wrote:
Hey Thumper,
I just had a look at the wiring diagram (just happen to have it close by), and the clutch switch needs to be closed for starting. Mine is an '05, which is the same as an '04, and I just soldered the wires. No issues.
The other two switches, neutral and side stand need to be open for starting; they go to ground when closed.
This winter, I will look into disabling the neutral switch as well. It has happened to me a couple of times where I stalled in gear, and couldn't shift back to neutral without rocking the car. No big deal when on a bike, but lot's of unstrapping and clambering out. I am comfortable to eliminate all the interlock switches, as I won't start without automatically depressing the clutch. Old habits.
# 59 is the clutch switch
PS. also make sure you keep the tip-over switch and mount it correctly, otherwise the engine won't run. It will crank, but not fire.
That doesn't seem to agree with the write up on page 8-15 of the Service Manual:
STARTING CIRCUIT CUT-OFF SYSTEM
OPERATION
If the engine stop switch is set to β β and the
main switch is set to βONβ (both switches are
closed), the starter motor can only operate if at
least one of the following conditions is met:
The transmission is in neutral (the neutral
switch is closed).
The clutch lever is pulled to the handlebar (the
clutch switch is closed) and the sidestand is up
(the sidestand switch is closed).
The starting circuit cut-off relay prevents the
starter motor from operating when neither of
these conditions has been met. In this instance,
the starting circuit cut-off relay is open so current
cannot reach the starter motor. When at
least one of the above conditions has been met
the starting circuit cut-off relay is closed and the
engine can be started by pressing the starter
switch.This implies that the clutch switch is NO and closes when clutch is depressed and that the sidestand switch is NO when down and closed when retracted.
So it seems that if I want to start the engine when NOT in neutral, I need sidestand switch AND clutch switches both closed.
So the question comes that if I wire the clutch switch closed all the time while I'm driving, will the ECM think I have the clutch in and do funny things like use a different fuel mapping, rev limit, etc?
Another question about the tip-over switch: Other than keeping the UP side up, do I need to worry about fore/aft orientation?